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Started by acain
Posted: June 6, 2018 at 14:11
Thought Id post an update on my situation. I have on my upper right leg two spots on the inner thigh that were mrsa. the infection has been gone some time and Im trying to get the skin to grow back. They are just round red raw spots I keep covered that wont fill in with granulation tissue. I have one the same above my right knee. I have one that is an infection site that just developed a few weeks ago, Ive been using the garlic baths daily and doing other things to help my body heal it without antibiotics and it has been slowly healing. I was hoping Id found something that was the magic wand we all look for, as after only four or five days I could see a differance. There is no doubt in my mind that RCG over some time and experimentation could have the desired effect of keeping mrsa under control, although Im yet to say Im one hundred percent convinced it will completly eradicate it. So far over a span of two years Ive probably had fifteen to twenty infection sites appear, almost always on my legs, and always what starts as a small itchy bump or scratch that within two days becomes a boil and then an infected abcess. Two days ago I noticed a tiny red spot on my right knee. right in the soft spot below the knee cap. next day I felt like Id been kicked in the knee. yesterday my knee and lower leg became red and swollen and so sore I couldnt sleep. Didnt take long to figure out Ive got another infection. But this is different. Instead of a boil on the surface its IN my knee. I made the decision go for the antibiotics. I hate it, but I do not want this stuff in my bones, blood or joints. I dont have time on this one to experiment like with a surface wound. So back to the er last night. they prescribed ten days of keflex, along with bactrim, and the bacitracin to put in the nose.
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Reply #1 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 10, 2018 at 03:34
In addition to garlic baths do you have a regiment to boost your immune system to help fight against breakouts? Have you tried UMF (unique manuka factor) approve manuka honey grade 15+ to heal your wounds?

Research probiotics for MRSA.
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Reply #2 by Bob Anderson
Posted: June 10, 2018 at 15:18
Hello acain -

I must ask a very important question...where did you get your garlic and what variety and cultivar is it? All garlic are not alike; some create more allicin than others on crushing and some form no allicin at all.

This time of year, the only garlic that will work are southern hemisphere garlic from Argentina, South Africa or Australia/new Zealand because garlics harvested in 2017 are now wilted away unless they were stored at 26F. If they were stored at 26F, they would immediately upon returning to room temp. If they were obtained at a grocery store, the chances are they come from China and have been irradiated and have no allicin. I say that because China grows more than twice as much garlic as the whole rest of the world combined and is the cheapest garlic and that is why it is found in almost all grocery stores but the radiation kills the garlic and it cannot produce any allicin. Does it taste really, really hot when chewed raw? If so, it is good garlic but if it tastes garlicky but does not burn your mouth, it produces no allicin and has no antimicrobial benefits.

Northern hemisphere garlic will generally not be harvested for another month and will have to cure in the shade for another month after that so northern hemisphere garlic is not available yet this year. Many people have tried to use store-bought garlic from China to fight MRSA yet none have succeeded because it is unable to produce any allicin.

Occasionally, one can find garlic grown in Argentina in stores but few store chains are that knowledgeable. Most know little or nothing about garlic. That's why I post here, to help people understand garlic so they have a better chance to recover and survive. The FDA doesn't care about people, only pharmaceutical companies that supply lots of money and "influence" under the table. If those people were not crooks to begin with, they would not seek positions of power to reap the wealth from those "donors".

Let's be honest here, the American Health system has no concern for curing anyone of anything but the real purpose is to enrich the pharmaceutical companies so they can continue to bribe the necessary number of governmental officials to get their way instead of the FDA protecting ordinary Americans from unscrupulous corporations like them.

The antibiotic apocalypse is coming and it is inevitable and when it becomes complete there will be turmoil as never before seen in Amerika and a massive uprising and demand for change. Unlimited greed can only carry you so far and when the demand for change comes, it will be loud and clear and unmistakable.

Antibiotic resistance is a clear indication that something is badly amiss throughout the entire system and in time that entire system will collapse. When people can't have operations or caesarians they need because of fear of life-threatening infections, the public alarm will go through the roof. It should be going through the roof now but for a dimly aware public.

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Reply #3 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 11, 2018 at 01:45
"The antibiotic apocalypse is coming and it is inevitable and when it becomes complete there will be turmoil as never before seen in Amerika and a massive uprising and demand for change. Unlimited greed can only carry you so far and when the demand for change comes, it will be loud and clear and unmistakable.

Antibiotic resistance is a clear indication that something is badly amiss throughout the entire system and in time that entire system will collapse. When people can't have operations or caesarians they need because of fear of life-threatening infections, the public alarm will go through the roof. It should be going through the roof now but for a dimly aware public."

Bob. I'm in total agreement with those statements and the your statements concering big pharma. I feel that the only possible vaild reason that our government seemingly ignores MRSA and is lax n making the public more aware is to protect big pharma profits and/or causing mass panic.

I live in mid-west Florida and the local farmer's market sells non-irradiated garlic for the past three months. I am not sure the type/strain of garlic but it is pretty hot when chewed. It's grown in Florida according to one of the farmer's in that particular stall I spoke with. The green stem is usually gowing out the bottom end of the cloves. Would it be correct to assume this garlic may be picked at a much earlier date/month, stored then sold?

I've notice after a month storing it in the fridge or on the countertop in a vented ceramic bowl it gets soft and mushy,.is this normal? Does it lose allicin strength as it ages?


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Reply #4 by acain
Posted: June 11, 2018 at 14:40
Man_Nuka15
"Have you tried UMF (unique manuka factor) approve manuka honey grade 15+ to heal your wounds?" My budget wont allow it. From what Ive seen in the stores its very expensive. I tried to buy some MH infused wound coverings .. but the tiniest size they had was like twelve bucks a patch.

Bob Anderson
"where did you get your garlic and what variety and cultivar is it?"

The first time I bought it from a supermarket in town and when I got it home it was dry and brown and dead looking. I then went to another winn dixie supermarket and found some different. When I broke them apart they were fresh and moist and had live green sprouts poking out of the middle, and had a very strong odor when I chopped them up. I figured it was good. As far as taste, I dont know how hot it is, as I chop it fine and just swallow about a table spoon full in one big gulp with water. I agree completely that big government and big medicine is in bed together. Just like every other thing that people NEED, if its a necessity we need to live, government will find a way to A) make a fortune from it and B) find a way to use it to further control the people.
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Reply #5 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 11, 2018 at 16:01
I haven't had a pus filled wound since the initial infection four months ago that cultured resistant against clindimycin. During the initial infection (boil on chest) I knew very little of MRSA related skin infections other than avoid touching someone or objects around them in a healthcare facility. My chest boil was treated with incision, drainage and packing. I was switched from clindimycin to bacterim and it healed with couple weeks leaving a scar. I didn't know that natural treatments may be effective against MRSA related skin infections until just before the I&D and haven't had a chance to use manuka honey on a pus-filled wound.

I have used it on tiny (ant-like bite) pimples that break out after I shaved my chest once and pubic reigion once since my initial boil four months ago. The manuka honey is part of what I apply topically to them along with tea trea oil and a product containing benzoyl peroxide. They, so far, have reduced down to a small, flat scar in about 5-7 days. I'm not sure if they are even MRSA related but I've never had the issue in my life before acquiring MRSA so, it seems that they are. I believe that the supplement/probiotic regiment that I have listed here on few past post have helped my immune system to prevent these small outbreaks from getting larger but, I can't 100% confirm that either.

So, to answer your question concerning (UMF rated) manuka honey is: via many MRSA boils + manuka honey related that I have read it seems to be effective for many that have used it and especially if the whitehead core has burst and the wound is open to allow the honey access inside the wound. I have not used it on an open, pus filled wound myself but, I do have it on hand to use if need be.
I agree it is expensive, but much less expensive than a visit to an ER or clinic and if it prevents a possibility of bacteremia (blood infection) by healing a wound in a timely manner then it could be considered a necessity.

There is no one size fits all approach to MRSA so, it may take a combination of approaches for you or anyone to reduce infections.
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Reply #6 by acain
Posted: June 12, 2018 at 18:43
I agree, use whatever works best for one's individual situation. After living with this stuff several years, I only WISH it had only been four months for me. I have gone several months and thought it was about licked only to have it bite me again like it has a mind of its own and was mocking me. Ive had many small pimple like points come up on my arms or other places , usually one liile dab of silver gel knocks those out in a day or so with no problems whatsoever. once one starts on one of my legs though, there seems to be no controlling it.
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Reply #7 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 14, 2018 at 06:11
Hopefully the garlic baths will help you. Our immune system's first defense is our skin and skin is the largest organ so boosting the immune system is necessary. You may want to look into probiotics such as water kefir grains that grow with use (reusable) and cost around $10. Homemade yogurt and sauerkraut is cheap to make and filled with several types of probiotics.

There's inexpensive supplements too that help speed up wound healing and have anti-inflammatory properties:
Vitamin C
Echinacea
Turmeric extract

Diet:
Cut down or eliminate white sugars
Eat more dark greens

My four months may turn into a lifetime and things could get worse for me. I really don't know and that's one of the hardest parts it's the unknown and the constant diligence it takes to keep the home clean, daily supplements, hand washing, etc...

There's some truly horrifying and sad stories here and on MRSA related reads onlne so at this point I consider myself unfortunate to have contracted it in the first place but at the same time fortunate there's information around nowadays that may not been around a decade ago to help deal with MRSA.

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Reply #8 by acain
Posted: June 14, 2018 at 13:44
"My four months may turn into a lifetime and things could get worse for me." Im just curios , have you found out if your a carrier, and have you talked to a specialist as far as decolonizing?
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Reply #9 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 14, 2018 at 22:48
When I was treated for my first outbreak and started reading up on MRSA I was stressed out about whether I am a carrier or not. Since, then my conclusion is that it doesn't matter as prevention of spreading is approached the same whether a carrier or not:
*Wash hands frequently
*Treat and cover any draining wounds
*Dissinfect houselhold
*Don't share towels or razors
and the list goes on (listed on many related internet sites).

Thankfully, to this point no one (including my wife and children) that I work around or have come in contact with has reported having MRSA. To avoid physical human contact is almost impossible and the information I have read is to only avoid contact during an active infection.

Studies on decolonization basically point to that they are mostly inefective long term other than prior to surgical procedures. Attemps of multiple decolonization can do more harm than good due to harming good skin bacteria along with the bad and possily allowing the bacteria to overcome a product such as chlorhexidine or muprocin. A decolonization that yields a negative test doesn't mean the bacteria is completely eradicated..it just means the bacteria is below a certain "low" number. Over time or very quicky they can multiply again to occupy the same skin or nares tested. This is one of the reaqsons why Bob Anderson tauts the RCG baths approach because unlike muprocin (antibiotic) and chlorhexidine or phisohex (synthetic soaps), garlic has naturally complex compounds MRSA cannot adapt to or overcome.

I haven't had an appointment with an ID doctor yet but if I do it will be test nares, skin and blood (if available) out of interest for decolonization through antibiotics or synthetic washes as they might recommend. More importantly I would like to have an office to go to instead of an ER to perform an incision and drainage if I require one.


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Reply #10 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 14, 2018 at 22:53
"I haven't had an appointment with an ID doctor yet but if I do it will be test nares, skin and blood (if available) out of interest for decolonization through antibiotics or synthetic washes as they might recommend."

I meant to say for testing out of interest but not using an antibiotic or synthetic wash approach if I choose to try to decolonize.
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Reply #11 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: June 16, 2018 at 15:27
Acain,

I'm not sure if I mentioned the use of zinc internally in any of my responses to you. Zinc is another inexpensive supplement that helps with wound healing and other issues. It makes my stomach a bit queasy so I take it at night before bed. Here's a webMD zinc read: https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-982/zinc
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