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Allicinated Garlic Questions
Started by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 25, 2018 at 21:32
First off, thank you to the creators, amdin, and members of this forum for sharing your knowledge and information towards this under exposed issue of MRSA. Special thanks to Bob Anderson to enlighten us concerning the benefits of allicinated garlic in the fight against MRSA infections and treatment.

I am fairly new to MRSA infections though I have been working in hospitals directly with patients for the past twenty-five years. My first breakout showed up as a small bump on my chest that I foolishly tried to pop and within a few days turned into a carbuncle. An incision and drainage (plus packing) was performed and the wound was cultured. Turned out to by Chlindomycin resistant and the PA switched me to Bacterim. The wound healed very well within a week and within two weeks a small, single furuncle appeared near the initial infection. Since, I turned to the internet for research I was able to deal with this single furuncle (infected hair follicle) by applying a high quality oregano oil + a carrier (olive) oil and it healed in a week.

Since then I had two separate single furuncle's near my chin. Both cleared up (one slightly scarred) within a week.It's been a month since the last breakout and for the past month here's my regimen:

One high quality 500 mg turmeric extract (with pepper included) daily.
One multi-vitamin, One 1000 mg vitamin C, Two 1000 mg fish oil daily
One 415 mg/supplying 5,000 mcg allicinated garlic pill (supposedly high quality) daily
Drink Kefir water daily (probiotic)
Eat homemade sauerkraut daily (probiotic)
Limit or avoid meats, poultry, eggs..unless raised without use of antibiotics.
Avoid liquids that contain sugars. Limit foods with sugars.
Apply hydro-peroxide 3% followed by anti-bacterial soap on any known skin cuts.
Apply umf 15+ manuka honey to all pimples as soon as recognized.

With that said on to my questions. I started allicinated garlic body spraying four days ago. Use non-irradiated garlic (grown in Florida) purchased form a local farmer's market. I crush the garlic with a butcher's knife and let it sit out for an hour, mix 2 cloves with water and let sit for twenty minutes in a thirty-two ounce spray bottle. I dowse my self well all over my body and face (except hair)and let it absorb into my skin until I am dry (roughly 15-20 minutes). I gargle with it and then drink the remaining in the bottle.
I actually enjoy the garlic washes and love the smell of garlic. I feel like it's a liquid layer of protection that is serving as barrier towards infections. I know it doesn't work that way but, that's how I feel.

My questions are:
How long can allicinated garlic effectively last mixed with water?
Is my mix ratio correct?
Best ratio to mix garlic with apple cider vinegar for long term storage?

I intend to start inhaling allinated garlic on a daily or a few times a week basis to treat my nasal hairs (nairs). Will inhaling it reach all the nasal hair? What is the best method for inhaling to effectively treat nairs?

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #1 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 25, 2018 at 21:40
I forgot to mention that I try to be as conscientious as possible washing my hands often (scrubbing 20 seconds or more). We (wife and I) wash our clothes with a borax product + laundry detergent and dry completely on high heat. Use 10:1 water:bleach mixture after showers, on appliances and where needed. Do not share towels and wash them every other day. Use a tea tree body wash.
Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #2 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 25, 2018 at 23:07
Hello Man_Nuka15 -

Thank you for your kind words.

If it works, use it.

To answer your questions, the half-life of allicin in air is around 16 hours before it deteriorates into Diallyl disulfide and some other things including Diallyl Mercaptan (a very malodorous thing). When diluted in water that half-life is extended to 30 to 40 days and it will kill all bacteria it comes into contact with during that time. There is a problem; however and that is that after about 48 hours after being added to water, the Mercaptan becomes dominant and it stinks so bad no one wants to be near it.

The ratio of garlic to water is very tricky as every variety and cultivar of garlic have a different taste and produces different amounts of allicin so you would have to know the variety and cultivar of garlic you have. There is an easy way to tell - bite into a clove raw and the hotter the garlic, the more allicin it produces. In fact, it is the allicin that makes it taste hot.

A study I read showed that allicin could be diluted to one part od allicin to 125,000 parts of water would still kill all bacteria that came into contact with the allicin-water. A little garlic goes a long way.

If you wish to preserve garlic in its natural state complete with crunch, allicin, hot taste and fresh flavor, there is only one way to do it and that is to fill a jar with peeled cloves and pour apple 5% vinegar over the garlic, cap it and store it in the refrigerator - do not use any heat on it. For a few years it will still have the fresh garlic taste, crispness and hotness and generate allicin when crushed.

As far as inhaling the fumes, yes, they will kill bacteria in the nose, throat trachea and lungs if one breathes it deeply enough. Using garlic water in a nebulizer works but NOT A STEAM VAPORIZER as the heat of the vaporizer can destroy the allicin. One study showed the fumes from crushed raw garlic killed all bacteria within 8 inches of a single clove of crushed garlic over 4 hours.

Hope this helps.

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #3 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 26, 2018 at 04:23
Mr. Anderson thank you for your quick respsonse and answers.

I got a good whiff of the Diallyl Mercaptan you described soon after I my initial post. I have a spray bottle mixed that's garlic is about four days old...foul smelling stuff. I ended up pouring that out and added rosemary oil and water to remove the smell from the bottle.

I'm not sure of the strain of garlic but I've chewed/eaten cloves of it and it burns a bit as it goes down and while in my stomach. When I spray it on my body it leaves a slightly sticky residue but dissipates as it absorbs into my skin.

I intend to preserve cloves in ACV as you described. Will be very convenient (after allicinating) for body sprays as well as for cooking.

Can I simply hold allicanted garlic near my nose for inhalation use. If so, how long should inhale it for? Can I use ACV that allicinated garlic soaked in and add it to a (essential oil) diffuser?

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #4 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 26, 2018 at 06:37
I guess I should have read this first:
Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #5 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 26, 2018 at 08:45
I forgot to ask: Can a person garlic bath/wash daily for the rest of their life?
Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #6 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 26, 2018 at 15:06
Man_Nuka15 -

Good questions. If you hold an intact clove of garlic under your nose, nothing will happen unless it is crushed or damaged enough to allow the enzyme, alliinase, to mix with the white body of the garlic and form the aromatic allicin. Allicin has a clean, fresh, invigorating smell while Mercaptan has an old, foul,dead odor. They are very different odors. Mercaptan from petroleum is what the gas companies use to make odorless gas stink so you can smell a gas leak before it becomes explosive.

The website was simply copied verbatim from one of my earliest threads in this forum. There's a lot of copycat garlic water bath websites that have sprung up all around the internet these days; virtually all of which have been copied from this forum.

Before I started posting here at Lady K's invitation, I searched the net and could find no references to garlic or allicin water at all so I started writing about my own discovery of it and the results I obtained. In searching in some old British medical notes I found from a Dr MacDougald in Scotland advised his patients to do garlic baths to treat bacterial infections in the 1890s, 30+ years before penicillin was invented. Those who did, survived and those who were so repulsed by the smell of garlic did not and they died from their infections.

I feel a slight twinge of resentment that people are stealing my ideas and profiting from them but I really don't mind because they are spreading the good news that there is an old herbal folk remedy that actually works in this new age of antibiotic resistant and it is cheap, effective and can be done at home in privacy. Life is good!

Finally, I don't recommend daily garlic water baths unless there is some kind of pathology that is affecting a person. No particular reason, it's just that once the infection is gone and one's immune system has been restored to glory, it can handle the load by itself, especially if one eats garlic in their diet. My idea is to save the heavy duty weapons until they are really needed. If one ever gets another MRSA or any resistant infection, they know what to do and it knocks out any new infection before it can cause any real damage.

No. I am not a doctor of any kind nor do I want to be. I don't give anyone any medical advice; all I do is discuss the properties of natural garlic and how those properties change depending on how it is processed and used and let people and their doctors decide if it means anything to them.

Hope this helps.

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #7 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 26, 2018 at 20:20
Mr.Anderson, thank you for your quick response.

I intend to do a thirty day regimen of daily crushed, allicinated garlic inhaling for ten minutes a session to hopefully decolonize my nasal hairs..if, they happen to be colonized. I have not had them tested but considering my career in the medical field and time I spend around multiple patients I can only assume that they (my nairs) are. After the thirty day regimen I will cut it back to three times a week.

I've read and firmly believe that MRSA can be spread though sneezing and running noses of people with MRSA colonized nasal hairs. The mucous land on objects and those objects are touched by others and the bacteria is passed on. I also believe that people who's nasal hairs are colonized potentially reinfect other parts of their own bodies by sneezing on their hands and then knowingly or unknowingly touch other parts of their bodies (especially face) before washing their hands.
I read this information in other forums a week ago and it seems very I practice it. Before acquiring this knowledge I may have inadvertently caused two outbreaks on my face this way combined with potential razor cuts from shaving prior to the outbreak.

Sorry to hear that others may be profiting off your knowledge and well meaning information you have freely provided in this forum. Other sites that copy your posts here should at least acknowledge you.

Prior to your last response my thought on daily (allicinated) garlic + water body washing/spritzing was that the skin absorbed allicin could potentially aid a persons immune system on a full time basis thus, possibly preventing future outbreaks. Considering the airborne and contact bacteria and viruses I work around on a weekly basis my immune system needs all the help it can

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #8 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 28, 2018 at 03:13
I've observed inhaling allicinated garlic has a very calming effect. Smells wonderful. Thanks Mr. Anderson for imparting your knowledge with us. I enjoyed the segment you are in on youtube.
Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #9 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 28, 2018 at 04:00
Man -
Eating garlic helps build up your immune system in a very interesting way. The digestive processes turn garlic into a fat-soluble compound that gets absorbed and delivered into the lymphatic system whose chemical factory uses garlic's diallyl disulfide to make antibodies, which are held together by a disulfide common bond. The more you know about it the more amazing this special plant is.

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #10 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 28, 2018 at 13:24
I read some of the older threads you replied to and in one you mentioned inhaling garlic allicin for two hours for therapeutic benefits. Would I possibly benefit (on my own accord and discretion)from longer session of inhaling.
Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #11 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 28, 2018 at 15:04
Inhaling garlic fumes is a mostly overlooked way to deal with nose, throat and lung infections and ear infections also due to their connectedness to E-N-T. I bought a painter's respirator and removed the filter packs from the canisters and substituted crushed garlic wrapped in gauze and strap it on and get garlic direct into my nose, sinuses, throat, trachea and lungs and fell asleep with it on once and had no problems. In my view, it even has potential to help with lung cancer if it is caught before it metastasizes. Once it spreads everywhere, I doubt if there is any stopping it.

Yes, garlic can be used in the fight against cancer and it can kill cancer cells when used appropriately but it can't make the body stop turning healthy cells into cancer cells. Of course, there seems to be little likelihood that Big Med will cure cancer and cut off their own great cash flow source. But cancer is another subject; we're here to discuss resistant staph infections.

There are around 900,000 MDs in the USA, few, if any, are aware of the true powers of garlic and how to use it effectively. That's one of the reasons I post here, to help people understand natural garlic so they can better understand how garlic water baths make people feel relaxed and give them an enhanced sense of well-being.

We're not talking modern medicine here, just an old style herbal folk remedy that helps people relax and feel good at home for less money than other alternatives. People can even grow their own garlic just like folks used to do. Ultimately, each of us bears the responsibility for and the consequences of our decisions in life, especially regarding our own health.

Re: Allicinated Garlic Questions
Reply #12 by Man_Nuka15
Posted: April 28, 2018 at 17:02
I really like that idea of using a painter's respirator.

Totally agree with you concerning the greed of big pharma in this country (USA). That greed and ignorance extends to oil companies, companies that use antibiotics in live stock, poultry and other foods, use of pesticides in foods and other ares, and many more companies that profit from selfishness, greed and neglect of people and planet.

My brother is a cardiac physician assistant. He also worked as a PA in neurology and emergency care. I have sent him links from these forums that include your posts as well as links to other sources of MRSA control such as manuka honey, turmeric, probiotics, etc..
He (as many in the medical field) seems to take MRSA lighlty. I hope to have a talk with him about it the next time we get together. He is very good at what he does and very knowledgeable as well but unfortunately, as with most western medicine training his thought process is antibiotics as the go to fix.

Hopefully, as Eastern and herbal medice/treatments continue to emerge in the USA there may be alternative MRSA treatment clinics that include use of garlic (allicin), probiotics, dieting and other natural treatments.
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