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Surgery from He_ _
Started by Ken W
Posted: August 20, 2010 at 01:04
I have MERSA also. I had GERD surgery @ Cleveland Clinic on June 29th 2010 and on the 3rd of july my incision was swelled and very painful. I asked a nurse if I shouldn't have some anti-biotics or something since it seems infected. I was told it looks normal and I shouldn't worry. While I layed in the hospital, I asked for my bed sheets to be changed several times since they were soaked from sweat from breaking a fever, the nurses neglected to change them. I was released on Sunday July 4th and I walked around here in dire pain. On July 5th, I called Dr. Rices nurse and I was told again that I shouldn't worry, it was normal for a major surgery like I had. About noon on July 6th I was walking across my yard without a shirt on and my wound bursted and it squirted out about 15-16" and a surgical sponge landed on my sweat pants and stuck there.I again called Dr Rices nurse and she told me to go directly to my nearest emergency room. I then went to Aultman Hospital in Canton, Ohio The ER Doctor squeezed about 6 more ounces of infection from my incision. The next day I went back to Dr. Rices office and I told the nurse Practitioner that I need either numed or intibated to drain my incision since I was in so much pain.
The nurse went out of the room and then Dr. Rice and the nurse walked back in. I told Dr.Rice the same, either numed or intibated he then stuck scissors in the wound and made a little hole then stuck his finger in the incision and ripped my incision back open. Then I was re-admitted back in the hospital for IV antibiotics and a Wound Vac. This was definately neglegence on the part of Dr.Rice and I will seek some compensation for lost wages and extra expenses
I went to the doctor today 8/19 and found out that the MERSA is back again on my stomach. Oh NO Here we go again!
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Re: Surgery from He_ _
Reply #1 by Bob Anderson
Posted: August 20, 2010 at 04:02
I am sorry to hear about your adversity and hope you get better soon.

Find out all you can about crushed raw non-irradiated garlic, it might be able to help you. I suggest you look around this forum and see what you can learn. There's a lot of people here on your side.

Your doctors don't know about garlic; it's something you have to find out about for yourself.

For starters, crushed raw garlic kills MRSA on contact and what's more, MRSA cannot become immune to garlic like it has all those pharmaceutical antibiotics. Once you begin to see that this is true you can come up with a lot of innovative ways to use garlic.

It's not eating garlic that works, it is bringing crushed raw garlic into direct contact with the lesion. either straight and undiluted or diluted in water. Direct application of crushed raw garlic burns fiercely for about a minute and works fast while4 garlic water doesn't burn but takes longer to work but it does work.

Feel free to look around the forum and educate yourself. An educated patient makes better decisions.

Good luck to you.
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Re: Surgery from He_ _
Reply #2 by ladyk
Posted: August 20, 2010 at 19:47
Ken W -

I’ve read your post. Here’s my opinion.

First thing that comes to mind is… our choice to be ‘reactive’ - rather than ‘proactive’ not just concerning our health and medicine, rather overall as a society collectively. I believe second opinions are imperative. We obtain second opinions when considering a home interior job for example. We must obtain second opinions (or more) when considering our most valuable asset - our health. Without health - we die, eventually.

Any invasive procedure carries risk of infection. This comment is documented in pre-admission/pre-op surgery papers in which we all sign, affording procedure(s) to move forward. If you don’t sign - you don’t have procedure. *An ‘educated educator’ at this level of surgical procedures (one who assists patients in the signing of documents), IS what is necessary to protect us all. We as a population are human host to many medical maladies, be it bacteria, viruses, parasites, fungi… therefore we are all at risk. This individual sees volumes of pre-op patients, and as ‘reasonable’ precaution an explanation of MRSA, etc. (HAI - hospital acquired infections) needs to be clearly included concerning all potential communicables - especially prevalent ones.

Have you spoken to ‘patient advocate’ at clinic concerning your care? *As a heads-up… an institution’s patient advocate’s bottom-line interest is working for the protection of the institution, not the patient. But this individual can become a valuable tool in getting your point across to the ‘powers that be’ whenever concerns of malpractice rise from a patient. Just know which side of the fence he/she leans. Have all your ducks in a row prior to conversation.

You wrote:
[“I asked a nurse if I shouldn't have some anti-biotics or something since it seems infected. I was told it looks normal and I shouldn't worry.”]

And then you demanded to see physician… yes?

[“On July 5th, I called Dr. Rices nurse and I was told again that I shouldn't worry, it was normal for a major surgery like I had.”]

And you demanded to see physician… yes?

[“About noon on July 6th I was walking across my yard without a shirt on and my wound bursted and it squirted out about 15-16" and a surgical sponge landed on my sweat pants and stuck there.”]

You do have concrete documentation of this event, (pictures - especially of sponge), hospital record stating observation as described above… yes?

[“I again called Dr Rices nurse and she told me to go directly to my nearest emergency room. I then went to Aultman Hospital in Canton, Ohio The ER Doctor squeezed about 6 more ounces of infection from my incision.”]

*An Infectious Disease specialist should have been following you as soon as surgical wound infection was observed.

Have you obtained your medical records describing this event?

con't
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Re: Surgery from He_ _
Reply #3 by ladyk
Posted: August 20, 2010 at 19:48

[“The next day I went back to Dr. Rices office and I told the nurse Practitioner that I need either numed or intibated to drain my incision since I was in so much pain.
The nurse went out of the room and then Dr. Rice and the nurse walked back in. I told Dr.Rice the same, either numed or intibated he then stuck scissors in the wound and made a little hole then stuck his finger in the incision and ripped my incision back open. Then I was re-admitted back in the hospital for IV antibiotics and a Wound Vac.”]

In a word - brutal.

My best advice is to become knowledgeable concerning all avenues before proceeding. It is your legal right to obtain any/all portions of your medical records. Some institutions require a nominal fee. I’d suggest reading the legal topics on forum to learn of others experiences while attempting this route. Do you know malpractice lawsuit statue of limitation in your state? Also it would prove helpful to your decision to learn about ‘substandard care’ vs. malpractice. As well as just how difficult it is to obtain successful remedy… on both - controlling MRSA infection, and accountability.

On an emotional level, I’m not sure I can emphasis enough how important it is to take the best of care of yourself. This health situation is not minor. MRSA is pathogenic, meaning disease causing. Progression is quite plausible if not treated appropriately. *Seek an ID specialist whose expertise IS infectious diseases! Get wound cultured so that antibiotic treatment IS correct for identified infecting agent. Side note: Some wounds become overpopulated with more than one mutated bacteria. Therefore it is important to have up to date culture. *Topical care is imperative. MRSA is a contagion. Is wound currently open? Consult with ID specialist about the use of Hibiclens antimicrobial wash to minimize colonization of skin barrier, attempting to reduce cross contamination risk. If you do use Hibiclens… as caution you should know this product carries warning: DO NOT GET INTO EYES & EARS.

What do you know about cross contamination?

Do you have pre-existing compromising health factor(s)… diabetes, etc. ?

What meds/supplements are you routinely ingesting?

Are you on probiotics to avoid C-diff overpopulation due to antibiotic therapy?

Learn all you can about immune system function, and how best to supplement that which you lack from diet, so immune system can function properly in ridding our bodies of system invaders.

Hope this helps a bit Ken. We all have reached the anger/rage stage in our MRSA experiences (horror stories of varying degrees)… learning to direct it, ‘to get in the battle’ so to speak - will serve You best. Be your own best proactive advocate.

If I can help, let me know.

Best wishes,
ladyk

PS In order to protect yourself… be sure when naming, all information is 100% (supported) factual. As tables can turn - even if we believe it’s justified.

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