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MRSA on Lip - drain?
Started by tiffany
Posted: May 7, 2010 at 04:51
I have MRSA on my lip. It started with a bump below my lip, but one developed right above that on my lip. I went to the doctor and I am now on medication. The bump below my lip never got big and really just looked like a pimple. It drained and isn't an issue now. The one on my lip has not come to a head and has not drained. My question is this: Does a MRSA infection HAVE to be brought to a head and drained or will it go down after awhile due to the antibiotics?
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Reply #1 by tiffany
Posted: May 7, 2010 at 10:11
Will there be a hard area left inside?

Does anyone know when my lip should start going down? I started the antibiotics at noon yesterday and I am taking 4 bactrim a day (2 at a time) and 2 875 mg amoxycillin a day (one at a time). The amoxycillin is because my lymph nodes were swollen and he thought I was getting something else. I really thought that after all that, my lip would at least go down a little bit after a day. If anything, it seems bigger.

From past experience, I can usually tell a difference after a day of antibiotics. I am so scared because I don't want to end up with a big hole in my face...My lip is 2-3 times its normal size and I don't know how much more of this I can take...How long do I wait before deciding that antibiotics aren't making a difference?
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Reply #2 by ladyk
Posted: May 7, 2010 at 20:15
tiffany -

Did either facial lesion get cultured?

In answer to your question... No. Some lesions can resolve, although infection can remain under surface, hence the reason for correct, timely treatment.

Is an Infectious Disease specialist following you? Due to site of MRSA lesions (facial)... a professional (who wears the correct hat for the job) should be following you, DIRECTLY. I have seen far too many whose time delays have allowed serious complications. Donít hesitate.

Remember if MRSAÖ any drainage is a contagion, so use due care (cross contamination precautions) with anything around mouth. You might try leaving it alone as much as possible, and in my opinionÖ in the meantime Iíd attempt to address it topically. If lesion looks impossible it will come to head, I'd ice it to calm immune response, cleanse it by way of Q-tip with Hibiclens (Hibiclens carries warning - DO NOT GET INTO EYES & EARS), and I'd dab Tea Tree Oil alternating with Bacitracin antibiotic ointment (over the counter found at pharmacy) on lesion - UNTIL you can get in to see ID specialist. *Inform ID specialist of all meds and treatments you have used thus far.

Donít let toothbrush scratch any openings in lip/mouth! Do mouthwash rinses. Donít touch lesion with ungloved fingers. Impeccable hand washing.

Hope this helps you Tiffany, sorry your in pain and going through this.

Best wishes,
ladyk

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Reply #3 by tiffany
Posted: May 8, 2010 at 02:53
I have tried to get in to an Infectious Disease specialist, but I have had no luck. I just moved to Tennessee and do not have a primary care physician. When I call the offices, some have said that they can't see me without my primary physician referring me. I don't know why that is the case since I have a PPO and can refer myself wherever I want. As a new patient, I can't get in anywhere until June, so that would mean a month before I could see the Infectious Disease specialist. I had very few options to choose from since my health insurance is primarily for Arkansas residents.

I went back to the clinic today and got treated like a druggie for asking for more pain medication. He was like "well what's hurting?"
Seriously?!?! How about my lips, my chin, my ears, my teeth, and ESPECIALLY my tongue???? Then, he gave me a lecture about abusing pain medication.

My lip has gotten even bigger since my last post. The doctor told me to use a warm epsom salt compress. He wants it to either go down or bust on its own. I think he said he would lance it tomorrow or Monday if neither of those things happened. I have been putting some of the Bactroban for nose on my lip. I have some tea tree oil so I will give that a shot tonight. I will also try your other suggestions.
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Reply #4 by ladyk
Posted: May 8, 2010 at 04:40
tiffany -

If you're interested... you can email me through forum's associated website MRSA AMERICA & Beyond http://webpages.charter.net/mrsa.america_beyond/index.html
and I will provide you with a list of Infectious Disease specialist in your area. I've found 9. If you don't mind your town being exposed I can provide link here. Your decision.

ladyk

PS Epsom Salt is another alternative which I've personally used - helps dry lesions.

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Reply #5 by Bob Anderson
Posted: May 8, 2010 at 05:41
Dear Tiffany -

Read the thread about garlic and Bob Anderson, it contains information that can help you learn how to help yourself.

I am not a doctor and cannot give any medical advice, all I can do is discuss the properties of garlic and let people make their own decisions about their own health matters. If you are allergic to garlic, don't use it at all.

If you can find some good garlic in a store, it could make it all go away in a few short days. Crushed raw non-irradiated garlic kills MRSA on contact and it heals up quickly. Seriously, I kid you not.

It's hard to find good garlic this time of year. If your grocery store has garlic that is starting to sprout, but has only short sprouts, then it is good and the sooner it is used the better.

Some garlic that looks good, may be irradiated and you should test it when you get home - there's an easy way. Just remove a clove from a bulb and cut it vertically down the middle and lay the two halves open and you should see a pale green growth shoot or some tiny leaves in the center. If so, that is good garlic. But if there is no growth shoot or tiny green leaves but only an empty place where they were, then that garlic has been irradiated and has no health benefits.

Another place to find it is in the mexican food or spice section of food stores. Sometimes they have little boxes that contain two small bulbs of garlic. If those bulbs are still firm then that garlic will work. Small bulbs don't get irradiated but have excellent antibiotic properties and store quite well so if they are still firm and healthy garlic then they have antibiotic properties.

First peel a small clove and put it in your mouth and and nick it with your teeth so as to release a little garlickiness and slowly suck on it while you prepare the garlic water. That garlickiness has strong antibiotic properties and kills staph. It is also hot to the taste. The more of it you release, the more antibiotic properties it has and the hotter it gets. It can get extremely hot if you chew too much at one time but the hotness lasts only 45 seconds to a minute but is very intense for that minute. If you make garlic water, the garlic water doesn't burn.

Crush 3-4 cloves and let them set for 15 minutes to 90 minutes to increase the amount of allicin formed, the longer it sets, the more allicin is formed and then add the garlic to a quart or two of warm water - warm water opens the pores.

You can gargle with the garlic water, drink it, swish it around your mouth, Pour it into a basin and soak and bathe your face in it and the longer it sets on your face, the more of it gets taken up in the skin and it fights the infection in the sub-dural areas as well as on the surface. After 15-30 minutes, draw a warm bath and pour the garlic water into the bath and soak for an hour or two completely submerging from time to time. Shower and shampoo as usual afterwards.

You should see big improvement by morning.
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Reply #6 by tiffany
Posted: May 8, 2010 at 11:17
1. Forgot to answer this earlier. The culture they took was from my nose since I have recurrent MRSA. They won't get the results back until today.

2. I live in Knoxville, but the problem I am having is finding a place that my insurance company will pay for. Out of the list of 9 or so I found in the provider directory most were either at the place that would not take me without a referral or at UT and don't have a practice and only see people when they have been admitted to the hospital. I couldn't get ahold of any of the others...I'm not sure what is up with that.

3. I will try to get my mother to go to the store to get me some garlic...I still haven't found the tea tree oil...at this point I am feeling too awful to move.

4. NEW DEVELOPMENT: Okay, my lymph nodes in my neck have been swollen lumps because of this, but now I have a new lump and that worries me. This lump is under my chin, but not down on my neck...it is in the center but slightly to the right. Is this some other node? It feels like my lymph nodes do, but hurts to touch and I've never noticed some sort of node being swollen there when sick. This makes me wonder if I am developing another spot, but it is REALLY DEEP in there, and I've never had one that deep before. Does anyone know what this could be? Maybe it is some node or gland that I have never noticed swelling before...I hope so and that it isn't another MRSA spot developing that deep.
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Reply #7 by tiffany
Posted: May 9, 2010 at 03:06
Update: So I talked to a 24 hr nurse through my insurance company about the lump under my chin and she said that lymph nodes are only at the jaws and under your arms and that it was probably more MRSA. She had me scared half to death and then I talked to my doctor and he was pretty upset with her lack of knowledge and said there are lymph nodes all over the place and the one under your chin is called the submental one I think. So that was a little bit of a relief.

I got the garlic like you suggested...I am not sure if it was irradiated or not...It was greenish in the middle like an onion, but not really leafy...I got the kind that is 2 in a package. Does that sound right? I cut a piece in half and left it sitting awhile, then i scored it and I just have it stuck to my lip...I hope I am doing this right...
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Reply #8 by tiffany
Posted: May 9, 2010 at 03:32
Okay, I guess I have another question. This is about what a previous doctor called an "infected scab." By that I mean the green rubbery thing that looks like hardened puss and is left in the lesion. My instinct is to get it out, but I know when I do that there will be a hole. I really want to minimize scarring on my face. Is it okay to just leave it alone or will it end up leaving a big lump if my lip heals with that left in there? Do I keep creams on it to keep it soft or do I let it scab over? Does anyone have any other suggestions to minimize scarring?
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Reply #9 by Bob Anderson
Posted: May 9, 2010 at 05:51
Tiffany -

It sounds like you have some good garlic.

As you have no doubt discovered by now, applying the cut, scored garlic directly to your lip can create a burning sensation but it will also fight the infection. The key is to get as much allicin as possible as close as possible to the infection sites. As long as you are already feeling some hotness, might as well put a piece in your mouth and slowly suck on it and chew little bits off of the piece and make it last as long as you can.

Take a few of the cloves from the bulb and crush them and let them set for an hour and then add the crushed pulp to some water and bathe your face, chin, neck in it for a few minutes as often as you think about it and you should begin to experience relief before the weekend is over. Garlic water is good for a few hours before it starts to smelling a little rank and then you can pour it into a bathtub of warm water and soak in it for an hour or two, submerging fully a few times and then shampooing and showering off as usual.

Please let us know how your experience turns out. If you use enough garlic and let it set long enough and use it the right ways, relief and should be forthcoming soon and I would expect minimal, if any, scarring - at least that's what I'm hoping for.

Good luck to you.
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Reply #10 by tiffany
Posted: May 9, 2010 at 11:25
I left the garlic taped to the spot underneath my lip for an hour or so. It really softened everything up. Awhile after that, pus started running out of it...all it took was barely rubbing my tongue across the inside of my lip. Now what keeps draining is clear liquid mixed with blood (hope it isn't infecting my blood or anything!). The spot on my lip has come to 2 visible heads, but I have not put any garlic on it...I want to see if it decides to run out under my lip since it is so close together. I do feel relief from the pressure, though. Thanks!
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Reply #11 by Holly G.
Posted: May 20, 2010 at 06:12
I have a question-I had surgery on Tuesday-May 11th. After surgery the corner of my mouth was very sore and "cracked". I thought this was due to the intubation tube that was used during the anesthesia process. This lasted for about 4 days. Over the weekend I noticed a small blister, I thought I was getting a cold sore due to trama to mouth (I am very supseptible to these). But then I noticed it really didn't feel like one-there was not "tingle" sensation and then over the last few days blisters have appeared. The odd thing is they do not hurt unless I try to open my mouth to eat or someone touches them. I went to my pain management today and she said it looked like anminfection under the skin which could be MRSA. Gave me a compounded cream containg steroid, antibiotic and a sort of neosporin mix. Said of not better in 48 hours to see my PCP-well that will put me on the weekend. Question is-does this sound like MRSA? Should I go see PCP asap? I am kinda freaking out as I have never heard of MRSA appearing on the mouth. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
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Reply #12 by ladyk
Posted: May 20, 2010 at 17:52
Holly G. -

It is my opinion you should seek an Infectious Disease specialist and have lesions cultured. C&S (culture & sensitivity/susceptibility) will identify culprit, and also determine best treatment choice.

*If this is MRSA you don't want to waste time trying this and that, best to know what you're up against directly.

Are lesions spreading? Possible Impetigo

Click the little camera icon for view of what impetigo looks like and compare.
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/tc/impetigo-overview

Impeccable hand washing is necessary to control cross contamination of any bacteria, be sure not to touch with hands, and wash wash wash your hands. When unable to wash, use alcohol based hand sanitizer.

In my opinion seek professional before weekend, don't hesitate.

Hope this helps.

ladyk

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Reply #13 by Deb
Posted: June 16, 2010 at 17:14
I was in the hospital for 4 days receiving antibiotic by IV due to a 2 day old infection!!! It was on my chin and one seemed to be deep in just under my bottom lip and it turned out to have the lesion inside of my mouth opposite my teeth down in the groove, leaking the bacteria inside of my mouth. GROSS!! They grew the sample out and confirmed MRSA. I am home from the hospital for around 3 days now. Saw the infectious disease dr. that took care of me in the hospital and he gave me some bacterial ointment that you put in your nose with a q-tip and some soap to wash with. He recommended my husband to use some of the ointment. The important thing to know is don't wait!! Mine was a fast spreading one and it was headed up to my left eye where it could have gotten access to my brain, leading to meningitis. In the mid to late 1800's and even into the early 19th century it was common for people to die from this!!

Wash those hands!!!!!! I was already washing mine like 20 times a day but now I feel like a freak about it. And of course using the gel in between.

Good luck everyone who has to deal with this issue...my whole left side of my face was completely puffed up within hours after I arrived at the emergency room.

Take care!
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Reply #14 by deana
Posted: July 19, 2010 at 13:44
i do feel your pain i have mrsa and i drain it myself make sure everthing is sterile it really sucks and is a painful, annoying thing to carry i hope ur lip gets better!
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Reply #15 by jonathan
Posted: November 3, 2010 at 06:07
my lip hurts so bad i woke up with my lip all swelled up just the left side with a bump on it and my doctor cut it open with a knife and drain it it turned black and the swellen is getting a little better but i just hope it get better i am using gloves some handsanatizer and alot more to clean it and also it is still dripping pus i dont know what to do if i should just pop it to get all the pus out or should i just leave it alone? also i already started on meds 2 daily and i hope it gets better wish me luck and can all of you guys give me samples to do with this mrsa emai me at jonathan.rivera24@gmail.com and give me your opinion thank you for your time :^).
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Reply #16 by ArmyWifey
Posted: January 30, 2011 at 06:36
My 8 mo/ old has MRSA. No clue how he got it or really even when he got it. Just before Thanksgiving he had the most gigantic zit on his sweet little baby chin. Eventually it got to a point where it would burst (in the bath or with hot compress) and I'd use antibiotic ointment and clean it up. Then it happened again, worse and more zits...and again and again. This last time I the zits started appearing in hours and got huge fast. They seemed painful and I couldnt help them to go away. I finally took him to the ER. On top of the "zits" he had a terrible rash...like a scarlet fever looking rash (anyone else get a rash?) Anyway, they started him on two antibiotics and took cultures. The next day I was to return to the ER for follow up (peds office was booked solid), the test results hadnt rendered any info but it turned out he was allergic to the Sulfa antibiotic and his poor little chin was so red and getting worse. They admitted him to the hospital for 4 days and did IV antibiotics. Test results did return with a positive diagnosis for MRSA but they never told me that this infection could reoccurs and I had no idea how contagious it is. I found out through my own research. My poor sweet baby.
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Reply #17 by Jay {products edited out}
Posted: October 11, 2011 at 11:56
Re: MRSA on Lip - drain?
Reply #17 by Jay Posted: October 11, 2011 at 08:53

HELP!!! I have MRSA in my bottom lip, and my lip is swollen to twice it's size. I wakes me up frequently through the night from the pain and it's making my teeth hurt. I'm getting headaches, and my lymph node under my left jaw line is tender and sore. I've been taking Bactrim, coating it with { } and antibiotic ointment. I apply { } but it still hurts like hell. I just want the pain to stop, I've had very little drainage, and I've attempted garlic to help assist with healing. The garlic is unbearable due to the burning sensation on my sensative lips. I just want to sleep again. 19794

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Reply #18 by Bob Anderson
Posted: October 11, 2011 at 13:59
Jay -
If the garlic burns, that is an indication it is good garlic and will work. If it is too hot for you, dilute it into a little water and continue to use it. A washcloth can be saturated with garlic water and held in place for a while - the longer the better.

A whole body garlic bath for an hour or two, including complete submersion of the head as often as practical, would be even better.

You should start seeing signs of improvement within hours or overnight.

Please keep us advised on your progress.

Good luck to you.
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Reply #19 by DB from the best Impetigo site
Posted: March 16, 2012 at 20:07
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