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MRSA STAPH and TURMERIC
Started by susan
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 14:51
because of tremendous stress in my life recently, I picked up MRSA from my handicapped little girl who is colonized with MRSA. I developed a boil on my face and didn't know what it was, so i did some online research. I am loathe to go the the Dr. unless I'm really ill, so I decided to try to cure myself. I found that TURMERIC the indian spice worked for a lot of people suffering from boils so I decided to give it a try as I happened to have some on hand. I began by using warm compresses dipped in a solution of water salt and about a teaspoon of turmeric. I also mixed a teaspoon with about a quarter cup of warm half and half and drank it several times throughout the day. The boil was nearly the size of a golf ball when I began. By the second day it opened and began to drain pus. Then I made a paste with salt turmeric and water and applied it directly to the boil and covered it with a sterile gauze. I kept up the regimen and the boil is almost completely gone after 8 days. However, several more boils have popped up since. I repeat the regimen on each of them and they clear up, but I finally decided to go to the Dr. to get some antibiotics to stop the outbreaks. I believe the turmeric really helped the MRSA to heal faster and am so glad I found it.
good luck!

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Reply #1 by Joe
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 17:15
Susan !Experience showed that if you have recurring Mrsa infections home remedies no match against the superbug trust me I am speaking of experience. you heve to see an Infectious Disease Specialist because Mrsa is they field.
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Reply #2 by Tom
Posted: August 30, 2009 at 04:31
Turmeric may help mrsa caused wound heal faster but it will not prevent it from coming back.You have to use Hibiclens and an antibiotic to wich the bacteria showed sensitivity in the lab test
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Reply #3 by Darrelyn
Posted: October 6, 2010 at 16:52
I've been doing some reading on MRSA and found that 1/4 teas. of Turmeric mixed with a triple antibiotic used as a poultice and covered with gauze will hasten healing of infectious outbreaks.
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Reply #4 by Bob Anderson
Posted: October 6, 2010 at 19:49
I know little about Tumeric or other herbs but look forward to enlightenment. Anything natural that will help MRSA sufferers is good.

I know a lot about garlic and am willing to teach anyone who will listen.

It usually seems like combinations work better than any one alone.

Whatever works.


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Reply #5 by caringaj
Posted: October 9, 2010 at 06:52
Ask your doctor about Bactroban (municipron) ointment. I have been swabbing my nose with the ointment 2 to 3 times a week and have not had an outbreak in over 6 years. I don't take any herbs or use garlic. However, the bactroban seems to have done the trick for me. The bacteria lives in your nose. The bactroban ointment kills it.
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Reply #6 by Mom in Calif
Posted: October 9, 2010 at 20:16
For a while, turmeric was one of the supplements we had in our rotation, but in our family's experience garlic was stronger and seemed to have a more immediate effect as far as immune support goes. We did not try it in poultices, though. I bet that would work. We just didn't see much result from turmeric pills.

I think incorporating turmeric in one's diet on a regular basis might do more. In India, consumption of turmeric-based curries is credited with keeping many Western-style health problems away.

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Reply #7 by Aben
Posted: October 13, 2010 at 23:03
to Caringaj
How long do you apply the bactroban? Have you been taking it for straight years?
I am on my second outbreak. First one about 1 1/2 month ago. First time I was
prescribed with Bactrim DS for 10 days. Now Bactrim again with Bactroban and
Hibiclens. My wife had an outbreak last week and she is finishing the bactrim. We are
both using Bactroban 2-3 times a day, as directed, but what should we do after using
it all? How long should we take the bactroban? How many times a day, then per
week? We are gonna contact an Infectious Disease very soon.
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Reply #8 by Aben
Posted: October 13, 2010 at 23:05
I have heard about Bleach Baths and read a report from a study that it was found to
be more effective than hibiclens.
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Reply #9 by Aben
Posted: October 13, 2010 at 23:29
http://aapgrandrounds.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/21/1/3
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/719330
Please, read this.
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Reply #10 by caringaj
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 03:27
To Aben - I have been using the Bactroban ointment in my nose 2 or 3 times a week. I use a very small amount and have been doing it for 6 years. I have had no MRSA outbreaks in six years. I don't use garlic or any of the other herbs mentioned on this board, nor do I take bleach baths. Just shower with ordinary soap. Hope this info helps.
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Reply #11 by Aben
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 04:11
I am sure it will help. I know its there, I just don't want it to come back again or
spread systemically. Where do you get it? Do you always need a prescription from a
doctor? I have seen generics in amazon. Thanks caringaj.
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Reply #12 by caringaj
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 05:19
To Aben - Get an RX from your doctor for the ointment. The generic name is Municipron, which is what I get.
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Reply #13 by ladyk
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 08:05
Aben -

You mentioned you’re a med student… in such a capacity, a person’s protection is taught. Therefore, I’d like to suggest you research information concerning the ‘resistant factor’ mutations (like MRSA) possess.

Overusing/Misusing antibiotics (ointment or otherwise) is an inescapable caution concerning multi-drug resistance today. Scientific studies confirm this risk factor. Forum participants have dealt with this complication first hand, going through rounds and rounds of various antibiotics. Clindamycin comes to mind concerning inducible resistance. Resistance to Methicillin, Vancomycin, and so many more. And there are studies which confirm Bactroban resistance also occurs.

Misinformation, is misinformation… and using Bactroban to decolonize nares 2 -3 x weekly x ½ a dozen years or so - whether colonized or not - is misinformation! Whether it is ‘working’ for caringaj remains to be seen, since we have not been provided her last true nare culture results?

Whether you choose to indulge in overuse of antibiotic ointment and risk resistance is your decision, but I’m not going to let it go by that others might not know the studied risks involved in doing so. It is a studied fact - one risks Bactroban resistance where MRSA bacteria is no longer susceptible.

Bacteria ‘resistance’ is the tip of the pin issue we’re dealing with in the first place. *So yes, Do pass the above specific Bactroban treatment suggested by Infectious Disease specialist for opinion.

You wrote Reply #7: [“Now Bactrim again with Bactroban and Hibiclens.”]

*How were you instructed to use Bactroban concerning nare decolonization?


You may find the following of interest.

con't
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Reply #14 by ladyk
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 08:07

Uses

Mupirocin is used as a topical treatment for bacterial skin infections, for example, furuncle, impetigo, open wounds etc. It is also useful in the treatment of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), which is a significant cause of death in hospitalized patients who have received systemic antibiotic therapy. It is suggested, however, that mupirocin cannot be used for extended periods of time, or indiscriminately, as resistance does develop, and could, if it becomes widespread, destroy mupirocin's value as a treatment for MRSA. It may also result in overgrowth of non-susceptible organisms.


Resistance

Shortly after the clinical use of Mupirocin began, strains of Staphylococcus aureus that were resistant to mupirocin emerged.[10] Two distinct populations of mupirocin-resistant S. aureus were isolated. One strain possessed low-level resistance, MuL, (MIC = 8-256 mg/L) and another possessed high-level resistance, MuH, (MIC > 256 mg/L).[10] Resistance in the MuL strains is probably due to mutations in the organism’s wild-type isoleucinyl-tRNA synthetase. In E. coli IleRS, a single amino acid mutation was shown to alter mupirocin resistance.[11] MuH is linked to the acquisition of a separate Ile synthetase gene, mupA.[12] Mupirocin is not a viable antibiotic against MuH strains. Other antibiotic agents such as azelaic acid, nitrofurazone, silver sulfadiazine, and ramoplanin have been shown to be effective against MuH strains.[10]
The mechanism of mupirocin differs from other clinical antibiotics rendering cross-resistance to other antibiotics unlikely.[10] However, the MupA gene may co-transfer with other antibacterial resistance genes. This has been observed already with resistance genes for triclosan, tetracycline, and trimethoprim.[10]
http://www.answers.com/topic/mupirocin

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U.S. National Library of Medicine
Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN.
Mupirocin Efficacy for and Emergence of Resistance after Treatment of Experimental Murine Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) Nasal Colonization.
http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102264648.html

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KILL THE CARRIER
http://www.mrsa-forum-usa.com/index.asp?forumID=17765&subject=KILL-THE-CARRIER

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Bactroban Ointment
http://www.mrsa-forum-usa.com/index.asp?forumID=17773&subject=Bactroban-Ointment

ladyk

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Reply #15 by ladyk
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 08:27
caringaj -

You might tell us when your last true nare culture was done and results?


Also, I’m going to caution you not to pass along information on this forum which could create further risk to people already suffering, by offering advice concerning medication dosing ‘beyond’ that which is commonly documented/prescribed - there are enough who experience drug related complications concerning MRSA!

And ‘resistance’ is a big complication when we are already dealing with limited treatments due to this factor.


Refrain from giving such advice on this forum.

ladyk

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Reply #16 by caringaj
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 17:55
I have not had a nares culture. The only cultures I had were the 2 times I was in the hospital and they took a culture from the boils and it came back positive for MRSA.

I am sorry if I passed along impropr information on the forum and I will refrain from giving advice.

I find your forum very helpful and informative.
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Reply #17 by Aben
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 18:05
ladyk

Thanks for the info. However, I will ask a Infect. D. to hear what he says about it.
I also would like to hear how you have been dealing with this disease? I know there
could be some resistance developed by using it but I was prescribed to take it 3x a
day. I don't know for how long and also don't know if I should take it longer in
order to prevent a recurrence.
I would like to say that I was taught in med school about preventing this and other
diseases, however, I didn't get this from a hospital because my girlfriend got it 2
months earlier than me. She probably got it from a gym. We only have had 2 single
boil outbreaks in 3 months. Thanks to my clinical knowledge I noticed it when it
was on my wife's leg and 1 month later it came after me. I just went to the hospital
right away to get it drained. I was prescribed with Bactrim first, no bactroban. 1
month and half later my wife had it on her jaw and i got a new one on my
abdomen, close to the first one. I also noticed an unfamiliar scab inside of my nose
and I also thought it came due to MRSA habitance. Yes, you are right, there should
be a chance where resistance may develop by using Bactroban chronically. I ask
myself if we could decolonize our nares by applying bactroban 2-3x a day per 1
week, every 3 months or so, but I have also read very good clinical results by using
it 2-3x per week and even so with the bleach baths. I would like to hear read a
little more about how you deal with this because I can notice you don't use
Bactroban every week. Have u had any recurrence recently? Thanks
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Reply #18 by Aben
Posted: October 14, 2010 at 18:14
Don't worry caringaj. I just wanted to hear more about your treatment as I have done
with some others. However, I am just trying to group the more info I can so I can
discuss this with an Infec. Dis. doctor and he will have the last call for my treatment.
I'm not trying to experiment by doing X or Y thing, I just want to deal with this the
best possible way. There is nothing better than instruct yourself about any disease
and that is what I've been doing by trying to be a responsible person to prevent this
disease from passing it to others and by treating myself and my wife. Your info has
been very useful for me and I thank u for that, however, like I said, an Infect. Dis.
doctor will have the last call for my treatment.
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Reply #19 by ladyk
Posted: October 18, 2010 at 16:27
Aben -

You wrote: [“I would like to say that I was taught in med school about preventing this and other diseases, however, I didn't get this from a hospital because my girlfriend got it 2 months earlier than me.”]

Asymptomatic colonization is always a possibility. What you have been describing is CA- (C)ommunity (A)ssociated MRSA contracted via cross contamination.

It is plausible you contracted CA-MRSA from girlfriend/wife’s active MRSA lesion - and probable she cross contaminated the bacteria from her leg lesion to new lesion site on her jaw. And yes it is highly likely MRSA contraction took place at gym. Although, anywhere in the public arena becomes a cross contamination risk where human host carriers and/or infected congregated.

It would be important for you both to learn all you can about cross contamination as MRSA infections offer no immunity, meaning one can become infected over and over… as well one can perpetuate infections by cross contaminating bacteria from one active lesion site to another site about themselves - and to others. Other areas you would benefit from researching are carrier-colonized, and decolonization in order to protect yourselves best.


It is well documented how I deal with MRSA both here on forum, as well as on forum’s associated website. You’re invited to read through as much information provided as you wish.

No I have not had MRSA outbreak recently, nor for a very very long time. I attribute this to maintained immune support affording my immune system to function optimally as it is biologically preprogrammed to do in ridding system invaders. As well, I exercise cross contamination precautions.

We co-exist on this planet with many potentially harmful bacteria, viruses, parasites, etc… and we are bombarded with exposure daily as the world becomes smaller and smaller due to ease of travel. We travel - therefore they travel. It is us as human host who must adapt to their evolution for our survival, just as they evolve for their survival.

ladyk

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