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Gram positive cocci..any ideas ?
Started by K
Posted: November 22, 2007 at 22:07
My 18month old daghter went to hospital as a a result of a fit - that came on suddenly as she was not unwell before. She was only poorly for 4 hours and then temp came down and has since been fine? We stayed in hospital overnight and she had some blood tests. they released us following day, but then rang us at home advising we had to come back in asap as somthing had grown in her blood cultures. They said it was a bug and that she would need to be treated with a very strong antibiotic via an injections everyday for 5 days... they said they were treating her for "gram positive cocci" - She has to get another blood test after her antibiotics have finished. The boy in the next bed at hospital had scarlet fever and I have Laringitus and impetigo ? I have no idea what she has... or what she is being treated for... the doctors wont give me a straight answer and said its a potentially nasty bug - so is it just a bug or could it be MRSA... What questions do I need to ask to get a answer in the language I'd understand ???

Please help... going crazy with paranoid thoughts!?

Re: Gram positive cocci..any ideas ?
Reply #1 by ladyk
Posted: November 23, 2007 at 16:54
Gram-Positive Cocci

Gram stain is the method of testing. Individual bacterial cells are hard to see, partly because they are small, but also because they are almost transparent. In addition to magnification under a microscope, optical tricks must also be used to be able to see them. This is accomplished by staining. “Gram” is the sir name of the physician who discovered this method in the late 1800’s, hence “Gram-stain.”

Positive means when they cultured your daughter's blood a particular family of bacteria grew, and was identified.

The bacteria in this family group “Cocci” grows in characteristic colonies.
Staphylococci form flat packets of cells. Two species are common:
Staphylococcus albus - is probably growing right now on your skin.
Staphylococcus aureus - is also a frequent inhabitant of the skin, nasal passages, the gastrointestinal tract, etc. It can cause acne and, if it gets under the skin, abscesses/lesions. The development of antibiotic resistant Staphylococcus aureus... this is MRSA and has become a major problem. Some strains of Staphylococcus aureus secrete a toxin and can cause life-threatening toxic shock syndrome.

Most Streptococci grow in chains and is a common inhabitant of the mouth.
Streptococci cause:
"strep throat"
middle ear infections
scarlet fever (a result of a toxin produced by the organism)
rheumatic fever
a rare form of toxic shock syndrome

Pneumococci. The cells of these streptococci grow in pairs. Streptococcus pneumoniae causes bacterial pneumonia. This was once a major killer — especially of the aged and infirm — but today there is an effective vaccine and any infections that do occur usually respond quickly to antibiotics.

It is my impression that your daughter’s “fit”/seizure was due to high fever. And the high fever is due to infection invading her little body. I am not surprised this came on suddenly when you consider the age/size of the child, and the virulence/strength of this bacteria when attacking an immature or compromised immune system. Since you were told it is “cocci” we know it falls under that family of bacteria. MRSA is highest on the list of suspects in my opinion.

Ask what specific bacteria grew.

In the meantime, use great care in your and your family’s hygiene practices to avoid cross contamination. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you have K, this will help reduce your anxiety level which is completely understandable.

Re: Gram positive cocci..any ideas ?
Reply #2 by Tina Johnston-Wilson
Posted: November 23, 2007 at 18:53
K,going crazy with paranoid thoughts, is normal, I'd be more worried if you wern't, how did you find this forum? I've never heard of it before. how is she now? ladyK can tell you pertty much anything, she's kind of like the mom of the site lol, I find that we'er more like a family's one all of us hope won't be needed by anyone new, but we'er here for you when we can be, my family and freinds all turned thier backs on me, and the day I found this beautifull forum, i was so lone and exsausted, the pain was so bad that if I wouldn't had came across this site I was going to end it . one way, or the other it was going to be over. I just couldn't do it anymore, not alone , so I found these guys, by accident, I tripped over the site, #1 thing to remember your not alone, someone will help out, and you'll be in my prayer like everyone eles here is . so when your daughter or you are having a bad day pop in. you found the right place,
Re: Gram positive cocci..any ideas ?
Reply #3 by Nancy R
Posted: November 24, 2007 at 03:48

LadyK has pretty much covered what I would have offered. You are certainly NOT being paranoid. This is YOUR baby. I would insist on knowing exactly what the bacteria was and if it is MRSA (likely) insist that an infectious disease specialist be brought in.

Good luck.
Re: Gram positive cocci..any ideas ?
Reply #4 by Arrow
Posted: November 25, 2007 at 03:59
Yes, find out what bacteria it is and insist on an infectious disease specialist if it is any kind of resistant bacteria.

Meanwhile get your babe on lots of probiotics. Go to a good health food store and have them help you find a product that is age appropriate. You must find a way to get this stuff in her, even if you have to open capsules and mix it with ice cream or whatever. Three times a day! You want her to come out of this with a gut that is not too damaged. Also get her on a good B vitamin complex as antibiotics kill the bacteria that make B vitamins in the gut.
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